More information about Shadows & Phoenix, Imprudence and Emergence Viewers

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• You can enable shadows in Phoenix by using the “Ultra” graphics setting (Edit -> Preferences -> Graphics -> slider to Ultra) then check the “Enable Shadows” at Edit -> Preferences -> Phoenix -> Page 2 -> Advanced Graphics. Click “Apply” then experiment with different Windlight settings and times of day.

• I like the idea of your tutorial.. Let me share by adding the phoenix one way:

  1.advanced > debug settings.
  2.PhoenixShadowsToggle: Enable shadow rendering > True.
  3.Set your graphics to Ultra. apply > ok

• Thank you Missy & Mr. Hosho! I didn’t notice that. I will go back into Phoenix and see if I am able to take snapshots after doing that then.

• You welcome, still to snap shot it the normal way is not possible.. I have made a small a trick here: to use the machinima way.

  1.Hide your huds by:
  disable: view> Show HUD attachments.
  or: Alt-Shift-H

  2.Hide your UI:
  enable advanced menu: ctl-alt-shift-D
  ctrl-alt-f1

  3.Screenshoot it. click print screen.

  4.open ps > ctrl-N> click ok> ctl-v – and crop it the way you wish.

  a second hand way, but it is good when i am lazy to relog from kirstens.

• That is awesome Mr. Hosho! Thank you so much for that, much appreciated! <3

• You are most welcome, lady Singh.

• Oh, Bless You for this! Can’t wait to try it

  “Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?…

  The Shadow knows!”

• Running shadows using a Mac Computer is difficult and almost next to impossible. <— I truly would love to know why this is not possible to create a program code for the second life viewer for mac users… Probably they hate apple systems … -__- who knows! GRRRR

• Your tutorials are wonderful, detailed and so helpful. Thank you so much for your efforts <3 I personally have very big difficulties to snap pictures with shadows enabled, though I can run each viewer on my machine with them. Perhaps together the community will find a way to make this cool effect easier and better to use – thank you for that, Berry :-))

• > Running shadows using a Mac Computer is difficult and almost next to impossible.

  …I always figured the problem was that I was trying to get shadows on a Mac Mini. I guess it wouldn’t matter if I had a more powerful Mac 🙁

  I’m not going to buy a PC just so I can run shadows. Especially since I’d likely have to have a higher-end PC in order to get them. SL is no speed demon on the one Windows PC I do have (a dual-core Sony laptop).

• Hi — Your link to “turning the shadows on in Imprudence” (above) doesn’t go to any info on that :D. Even doing a FIND for “sha” gets a nasty pink not here clunk – LOL. I may have missed it. Who knows?

  So for people that need to know, it is under Edit> Preferences>Advanced>Main —Enable shadow checkbox.

  The note beside the box says that you have to run in Ultra and that it is unstable. I am using the 1.4 experimental but if I remember correctly it is in the same place in 1.3. My graphics card won’t do shadows so not an option for me.

  Sure this will all be helpful to lots of folks. Thanks.

• Tried setting up shadows in Phoenix both with the preference setting (which crashes Phoenix without fail) and with the debug settings (which do nothing). Alas, no shadows for me with Phoenix.

  Computer specs:

  CPU: Intel Core Series Processor (1850 MHz)
  Memory: 8117 MB
  OS Version: Professional (Build 7600)
  Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
  Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 460M/PCI/SSE2
  Windows Graphics Driver Version: 8.17.0012.5912
  OpenGL Version: 4.0.0

  libcurl Version: libcurl/7.20.1 OpenSSL/0.9.8j zlib/1.2.3
  J2C Decoder Version: OpenJPEG: 1.4.0.635, Runtime: 1.4.0.635
  Audio Driver Version: FMOD version 3.750000
  Qt Webkit Version: 4.5.2
  Packets Lost: 10/3527 (0.3%)

• In Phoenix getting shadows is easy but snapping shots is hard. In snapshot, shadows dissappear or the background turns completely black. So can see shadows in world but no snapshoting them.. =/ If there is a cure for this, I want to learn..

• I do not know what I am doing wrong..
  I have emergence..
  And, I follow you directions, 100 %, I have even tried Don’s idea about the toggle shadows, since the option was avail.. however, all my photos, still turn out black, or with a blacked out background and no shadows at all.
  I have used Kirstens viewer before without issue (other then crashing) and the shadows show without issue.. the only reason I am not using it now, is I do not like the new UI.
  Is there a reason this would happen?

  Example: http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7989/snapshot169.png

  that whole black area is actually a field of green grass….

• @Horatia: It doesn’t matter if you have a more powerfull mac – i am a imac user – one of the newest who came lately out – and it doesn’t work ;).

  Lately I got the image in my mind, you can just turn on the shadows if you use a windows computer – or maybe, – just as an idea – to install windows as 2nd system on it. But personally that’s not an true option for me.

• now i use only kirsten but when i used emerald and when my body disappeared with shadows, i have done only : ctrl +alt + R to refresh my texture and hop the body reappeared.

• Imprudence has also an option in their preferences -> Extra -> enable shadow

  Though there seems to be a problem since i can see shadows on imprudence but when i make a snapshot they are not visible on it. I think it’s known to the devs so hopefully that will change 🙂

• booooooooo phoenix ;( I have shadows, but as Berry said, only when I’m nekkid.

• I finally was able to get shadows working on my 2 year old Macbook pro. Phoenix resulted in shadows, but no alpha textures would render. Kirsten’s Viewer always resulted in a crash. The SL 2.5 Beta works like a champ though…

  http://caelanhancroft.wordpress.com/2011/02/07/just-me-and-my-shadow/

• Hello Berry!
  For the record I am still not able to enable shadows with my new Mac :O
  Using Phoenix and followed this tutorial and the trick used by Caelan (checked the hardware skinning box) no shadows for me though x.x

  MacBook Pro
  15-inch: 2.66GHz
  Intel Core i7
  4GB Memory
  500GB hard drive1
  Intel HD Graphics
  NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M with 512MB

  Going to buy a PC. Sigh.

• Well,
  I´m on a new Mac with an ATI card and i HAD shadows yesterday. But the only possibility seems bootcamp and it gets unsharp when i zoom in…

  I so hope that the lindens solve this MAC/ATI shadows problem soom.

• I have a new Mac book pro 13 inch with a Nvidia GEforce 320 M and can get really decent shadows with Kirsten’s. Have not tried the other viewers, but am SO pleased with the way Kirsten’s look that I think I will put up with the sluggishness for photo shoots. I am new to all this…so was really happy to find out that my new Macbook pro could handle it!

• My daughter willnot like to see this here.

• @Penis Enlargement:

  As long as she has a robust penis enlarger to fall back on, I’m sure she’ll work through it.

  Somehow.

• For mac users with Imprudence.

  I can get shadows to work with my macbook and running Imprudence.

  HOWEVER. There is a glitch.

  You must have ULTRA graphics enabled.
  You must have HARDWARE SKINNING enabled.

  Shadows come up.

  BUT, all invisible prims turn black. T__T

  So, it’s a win lose situation. I suppose you can shoot without invisible prims, but that’s nearly impossible.

  I guess either I’ll wait for an update, or just deal without fancy shadows. ^_^

• Shadows on a mac – there is a bit of confusion here. When LL first made the shadow code it just didn’t work on macs at all. Now it can work an can work pretty well. I have a MacBook pro with NVIDIA 9600M and the shadows are lovely on the most recent viewers even if the framerate is <5fps. Depth of field is great too.

  I get about the same performance on a mac pro with NVIDIA GTX120GT.

  I had high hopes for the new MacBook pro range with 1gb of graphics memory… But every time I have tried to turn on shadows on the demo machines in the apple store, I get a hard crash. Btw these new ones have AMD radeon graphics and historically these have always played badly with SL. If you have a mac pro, then I believe the best solution is an NVIDIA gtx

• Shadows on a mac – there is a bit of confusion here. When LL first made the shadow code it just didn’t work on macs at all. Now it can work an can work pretty well. I have a MacBook pro with NVIDIA 9600M and the shadows are lovely on the most recent viewers even if the framerate is <5fps. Depth of field is great too.

  I get about the same performance on a mac pro with NVIDIA GTX120GT.

  I had high hopes for the new MacBook pro range with 1gb of graphics memory… But every time I have tried to turn on shadows on the demo machines in the apple store, I get a hard crash. Btw these new ones have AMD radeon graphics and historically these have always played badly with SL. If you have a mac pro, then I believe the best solution is an NVIDIA gtx285, but these have afaik been discontinued ao you might have to pick one up second hand.

  It's the graphics card, not so much the mac vs pc thing going on here, I think.

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• You saved my life… 🙂 Really… I just wanted to thank you…. and btw… I couldn’t run shadows on Kirstens… something was messed up, so tried out PhoenixFirestorm preview and it’s really really amazing one 🙂 And your instruction about Phoenix did really help me. And no, have no problem with snapping pic with it XD

• Hi Berry! I am currently using the SL beta viewer on my MAC – http://secondlife.com/support/downloads/?lang=en-US.

  I have a MacBookPro with a 2.8 GHz processor and 8GB and a NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT

  I am getting shadows – it is slow going but I get them. I recommend if you have an NVIDIA card to try the new SL beta viewer!

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• Hello. I’ve tried to do this by either going through edit preferences, or by other steps. My viewer keeps crashing. Not sure as to why…

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• I could come to know more about shadowing… I am a phoenix viewer. I am having trouble in shadowing..Ca n you please help me out…

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