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		<title>Comment on The Marketplace Debate by Crystal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 05:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and I totally forgot to tell you about two Catwoman mesh avatars I found, I think they look quite ok but since they&#039;re 100% mesh they&#039;re not as realistic than an regular SL avatar. I&#039;ll leave that judgement to you :)

The store is called Mesh Maniacs and is at http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Aramaki/33/27/105</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and I totally forgot to tell you about two Catwoman mesh avatars I found, I think they look quite ok but since they&#8217;re 100% mesh they&#8217;re not as realistic than an regular SL avatar. I&#8217;ll leave that judgement to you :)</p>
<p>The store is called Mesh Maniacs and is at <a href="http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Aramaki/33/27/105" rel="nofollow">http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Aramaki/33/27/105</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Marketplace Debate by Crystal</title>
		<link>http://strawberrysingh.com/2012/05/16/the-marketplace-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-25961</link>
		<dc:creator>Crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 04:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think both Marketplace and inworld shopping experience are needed and as someone pointed out it&#039;s a wise thing to remember that LL is taking 5% off each sale...
But Catwoman is the subject I like the most =)
So I&#039;ve been trying to make a few different Catwoman looks during the last months and stumbled onto a couple other nice outfits that met my &quot;requirements&quot;.

Of course the one that you&#039;re wearing is one of the best you can find around, it has a slight cyber feel though and might not look really vintage.

I&#039;ve found one that is almost the exact same one than in the movie with Michelle Pfeiffer, it&#039;s made by &#039;Madame Couturier&#039;: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/DANIKA/55/206/23

This creator also makes another one that looks a lot more vintage, just like in movies form the 50&#039;s so you might want to check this one too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think both Marketplace and inworld shopping experience are needed and as someone pointed out it&#8217;s a wise thing to remember that LL is taking 5% off each sale&#8230;<br />
But Catwoman is the subject I like the most =)<br />
So I&#8217;ve been trying to make a few different Catwoman looks during the last months and stumbled onto a couple other nice outfits that met my &#8220;requirements&#8221;.</p>
<p>Of course the one that you&#8217;re wearing is one of the best you can find around, it has a slight cyber feel though and might not look really vintage.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found one that is almost the exact same one than in the movie with Michelle Pfeiffer, it&#8217;s made by &#8216;Madame Couturier&#8217;: <a href="http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/DANIKA/55/206/23" rel="nofollow">http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/DANIKA/55/206/23</a></p>
<p>This creator also makes another one that looks a lot more vintage, just like in movies form the 50&#8242;s so you might want to check this one too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Marketplace Debate by The Blogging Elf</title>
		<link>http://strawberrysingh.com/2012/05/16/the-marketplace-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-25954</link>
		<dc:creator>The Blogging Elf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 00:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally prefer inworld shopping. It just feels more like &#039;shopping&#039;, rather than just browsing a terribly made website. Also I like to give stores and malls I like some traffic and avoid paying more Lindens into LLs greedy pockets. I&#039;ll only resort to marketplace to see if I find something there that I cannot find inworld, of if my LMs maybe don&#039;t work etc.

I cannot remember the times I inwardly raged because I was searching for some random part of an outfit (say &quot;leatherpants&quot; or something) and had to browse through hundreds of pages full of utter crap and low-quality stuff...and vaginas, penises, primboobs, milky boobies, clitpiercings, bukkakke semen and what not. The keyword system -really- annoys the heck out of me.

Not only that, but the sometimes incredibly long waiting times until something gets delivered isn&#039;t cool either. When I pay for my hair, I want it NOW, not in two hours.

What I sometimes DO like about it are the random finds...tiny stores that have no inworld place. But those are rare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally prefer inworld shopping. It just feels more like &#8216;shopping&#8217;, rather than just browsing a terribly made website. Also I like to give stores and malls I like some traffic and avoid paying more Lindens into LLs greedy pockets. I&#8217;ll only resort to marketplace to see if I find something there that I cannot find inworld, of if my LMs maybe don&#8217;t work etc.</p>
<p>I cannot remember the times I inwardly raged because I was searching for some random part of an outfit (say &#8220;leatherpants&#8221; or something) and had to browse through hundreds of pages full of utter crap and low-quality stuff&#8230;and vaginas, penises, primboobs, milky boobies, clitpiercings, bukkakke semen and what not. The keyword system -really- annoys the heck out of me.</p>
<p>Not only that, but the sometimes incredibly long waiting times until something gets delivered isn&#8217;t cool either. When I pay for my hair, I want it NOW, not in two hours.</p>
<p>What I sometimes DO like about it are the random finds&#8230;tiny stores that have no inworld place. But those are rare.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Marketplace Debate by Monica Querrien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica Querrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 23:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merchants often say that a significant amount of sales come from the marketplace, so I can&#039;t see how that is hurting the economy. Like people have said previously, the marketplace is good for smaller stores, because they get their products out there without overhead.

 I have heard merchants speak of the struggle they have to even break even on their store tier, and some have even said they were closing their in-world store and having a presence on the marketplace only. As for clubs, I don&#039;t get the logic with person #1 because none of the clubs that I have been to promote their shopping areas, and most of the merchants don&#039;t do anything to bring traffic to the satellite location. So why would people go there (as opposed to the main store) unless there was something to entice them to go?

I remember when I used to search for something in-world, and in the search results you used to be able to see the items that were in the stores, if the merchants labeled their vendors properly. That doesn&#039;t seem to work anymore, so I use the marketplace to do a search on items that I like - it&#039;s easier and more reliable than in-world search. 

As for actually buying items, I like to buy it in-world because I like to see what the store looks like, and whether they have items not listed on marketplace. There have been quite a few stores that have partial listings on mp but have a bigger selection (and newer) in-world. Also, you get to see what the item looks like in-world - I don&#039;t see how people can buy expensive furniture and the like without examining it first. 

 In addition, I feel if something goes wrong with the purchase, the merchant can address it quickly. At the marketplace (at least before direct delivery), you worried if the item failed to deliver, whether the merchant will redeliver, did the merchant get the money from the purchase, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merchants often say that a significant amount of sales come from the marketplace, so I can&#8217;t see how that is hurting the economy. Like people have said previously, the marketplace is good for smaller stores, because they get their products out there without overhead.</p>
<p> I have heard merchants speak of the struggle they have to even break even on their store tier, and some have even said they were closing their in-world store and having a presence on the marketplace only. As for clubs, I don&#8217;t get the logic with person #1 because none of the clubs that I have been to promote their shopping areas, and most of the merchants don&#8217;t do anything to bring traffic to the satellite location. So why would people go there (as opposed to the main store) unless there was something to entice them to go?</p>
<p>I remember when I used to search for something in-world, and in the search results you used to be able to see the items that were in the stores, if the merchants labeled their vendors properly. That doesn&#8217;t seem to work anymore, so I use the marketplace to do a search on items that I like &#8211; it&#8217;s easier and more reliable than in-world search. </p>
<p>As for actually buying items, I like to buy it in-world because I like to see what the store looks like, and whether they have items not listed on marketplace. There have been quite a few stores that have partial listings on mp but have a bigger selection (and newer) in-world. Also, you get to see what the item looks like in-world &#8211; I don&#8217;t see how people can buy expensive furniture and the like without examining it first. </p>
<p> In addition, I feel if something goes wrong with the purchase, the merchant can address it quickly. At the marketplace (at least before direct delivery), you worried if the item failed to deliver, whether the merchant will redeliver, did the merchant get the money from the purchase, etc.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Marketplace Debate by Strawberry Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strawberry Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 22:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tesh LOL yeah this Catwoman post is all your fault! :P  You totally inspired me to look again, so happy I did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tesh LOL yeah this Catwoman post is all your fault! :P  You totally inspired me to look again, so happy I did.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Marketplace Debate by Aisling MacMoragh</title>
		<link>http://strawberrysingh.com/2012/05/16/the-marketplace-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-25946</link>
		<dc:creator>Aisling MacMoragh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 22:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally make a conscious effort to shop at in world stores whenever possible because to me the experience of going to a place and seeing the set up and design of it all is a big part of why I am in SL. I don&#039;t want to just stand in my SL house alone and IM all day. I like running into strangers, designers, creators, fellow bloggers, and friends. I like encouraging creators to keep these spaces in world. I also feel like LL is already getting enough of a cut with things like Linden Exchange fees (both going in and out), premium memberships (almost a must as a creator since to get support you HAVE to have premium for almost all types of support) and land tiers.

I do find MP a good place to search for products, because apart from using search in world to find a specific named place person or group, in world search is pretty borked / useless. I also use MP for stores whose content quality I know that offer demos through MP and that I know from experience will be pointless to visit as their sims take forever / never rez for me (Thank you Truth for putting your hairs and demos on Marketplace.). The biggest problems for me on marketplace are, the favorites are completely non-functional. You can&#039;t organize or sort them with any meaningful criteria. You can&#039;t feel comfortable with your deletions from favorites and you can&#039;t group anything. Also delivery has consistently been a problem for me unless I am actually in world when purchasing (at which time it is only intermittently a problem.). Even with the new system it is not consistent and now there are even problems with the correct items being ordered from the correct creator due to the changes in marketplace.

In summary, both are useful, but when possible I purchase in world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally make a conscious effort to shop at in world stores whenever possible because to me the experience of going to a place and seeing the set up and design of it all is a big part of why I am in SL. I don&#8217;t want to just stand in my SL house alone and IM all day. I like running into strangers, designers, creators, fellow bloggers, and friends. I like encouraging creators to keep these spaces in world. I also feel like LL is already getting enough of a cut with things like Linden Exchange fees (both going in and out), premium memberships (almost a must as a creator since to get support you HAVE to have premium for almost all types of support) and land tiers.</p>
<p>I do find MP a good place to search for products, because apart from using search in world to find a specific named place person or group, in world search is pretty borked / useless. I also use MP for stores whose content quality I know that offer demos through MP and that I know from experience will be pointless to visit as their sims take forever / never rez for me (Thank you Truth for putting your hairs and demos on Marketplace.). The biggest problems for me on marketplace are, the favorites are completely non-functional. You can&#8217;t organize or sort them with any meaningful criteria. You can&#8217;t feel comfortable with your deletions from favorites and you can&#8217;t group anything. Also delivery has consistently been a problem for me unless I am actually in world when purchasing (at which time it is only intermittently a problem.). Even with the new system it is not consistent and now there are even problems with the correct items being ordered from the correct creator due to the changes in marketplace.</p>
<p>In summary, both are useful, but when possible I purchase in world.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Marketplace Debate by Tesh</title>
		<link>http://strawberrysingh.com/2012/05/16/the-marketplace-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-25944</link>
		<dc:creator>Tesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 21:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I have a REALLY important comment: I can&#039;t believe someone finally listened to me about a blogging suggestion (HA!)

Berry you make a purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrworthy Catwoman!!! Sooo happy to see you revisit this particular heroine :O)

xoxoxoxoxo
Tesh &lt;333</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I have a REALLY important comment: I can&#8217;t believe someone finally listened to me about a blogging suggestion (HA!)</p>
<p>Berry you make a purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrworthy Catwoman!!! Sooo happy to see you revisit this particular heroine :O)</p>
<p>xoxoxoxoxo<br />
Tesh &lt;333</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Marketplace Debate by BlackMagi Darkwatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlackMagi Darkwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 21:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the marketplace for quick searches but will always try and purchase from an inworld store - I&#039;m really not bothered if it&#039;s a 4 sim mainstore or a stall - I will only purchase from people who maintain an inworld presence.

Ok, so LL took over the MP and have been attempting to &#039;fix&#039; it ever since (!?) - I&#039;m pretty sure that in the not to distant future another enterprising soul will come along and try to make their own version of the marketplace so who knows what the future holds and where we will be shopping in the future.


Black

PS. I love the outfit and the benefits of mesh just ashame that LL are creating a 2 tier creator program - those with credit cards and those without.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the marketplace for quick searches but will always try and purchase from an inworld store &#8211; I&#8217;m really not bothered if it&#8217;s a 4 sim mainstore or a stall &#8211; I will only purchase from people who maintain an inworld presence.</p>
<p>Ok, so LL took over the MP and have been attempting to &#8216;fix&#8217; it ever since (!?) &#8211; I&#8217;m pretty sure that in the not to distant future another enterprising soul will come along and try to make their own version of the marketplace so who knows what the future holds and where we will be shopping in the future.</p>
<p>Black</p>
<p>PS. I love the outfit and the benefits of mesh just ashame that LL are creating a 2 tier creator program &#8211; those with credit cards and those without.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Marketplace Debate by lludmila</title>
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		<dc:creator>lludmila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 20:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t use the marketplace very often, but when I do it&#039;s because I&#039;m looking for something in particular. I prefer to see things in-world, because that&#039;s where I will be utilizing them. Who would buy a house from the marketplace?! You have to get in the house or skybox and walk around in it.  You have to sit in the chairs to make sure they are to scale with your av.  There are some items that can only be purchased through it, and that&#039;s okay, too. I mostly pick up freebies that way, though. I wouldn&#039;t want to spend more than 50L on something I had not seen in 3D.
[Problem of scale photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/marfita/5756705956/ ]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t use the marketplace very often, but when I do it&#8217;s because I&#8217;m looking for something in particular. I prefer to see things in-world, because that&#8217;s where I will be utilizing them. Who would buy a house from the marketplace?! You have to get in the house or skybox and walk around in it.  You have to sit in the chairs to make sure they are to scale with your av.  There are some items that can only be purchased through it, and that&#8217;s okay, too. I mostly pick up freebies that way, though. I wouldn&#8217;t want to spend more than 50L on something I had not seen in 3D.<br />
[Problem of scale photo: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/marfita/5756705956/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/marfita/5756705956/</a> ]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Marketplace Debate by Strawberry Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strawberry Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 20:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of great points here guys, thanks so much for contributing your thoughts. 

I have to admit, before speaking to the first individual it never really occurred to me that the marketplace could have these kinds of effects. I was so used to just standing on my pose stand and purchasing everything I need from marketplace without moving an inch. I admit I very rarely ventured out to the actual stores to buy. 

I still do that at times, but I have been trying to put more of an effort about actually getting out of my skybox and going to the store to purchase. It is a better experience and you do get to see other things the designer makes. 

However, marketplace just has the simple convenience factor and I believe that&#039;s the biggest reason most people do like it and will stick to it. 

I will try and put more of an effort towards venturing out to the actual stores though, just to support the creators. 

Thanks everyone for your thoughts, and for all the kind comments about the outfit. It was fun dressing up, I think I&#039;ll stay like this for a while. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of great points here guys, thanks so much for contributing your thoughts. </p>
<p>I have to admit, before speaking to the first individual it never really occurred to me that the marketplace could have these kinds of effects. I was so used to just standing on my pose stand and purchasing everything I need from marketplace without moving an inch. I admit I very rarely ventured out to the actual stores to buy. </p>
<p>I still do that at times, but I have been trying to put more of an effort about actually getting out of my skybox and going to the store to purchase. It is a better experience and you do get to see other things the designer makes. </p>
<p>However, marketplace just has the simple convenience factor and I believe that&#8217;s the biggest reason most people do like it and will stick to it. </p>
<p>I will try and put more of an effort towards venturing out to the actual stores though, just to support the creators. </p>
<p>Thanks everyone for your thoughts, and for all the kind comments about the outfit. It was fun dressing up, I think I&#8217;ll stay like this for a while. :P</p>
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